P.S Because my questions on this topic are ignored, Comrade @RSivakov advised me to create a separate topic so that everyone can get an answer to these questions and, if necessary, enter into a discussion, I believe that without receiving answers to these questions we will not have transparency in our “DAO”
Hello everyone, I apologize in advance for my bad English. Initially, I wanted to ask these questions personally to the safe team. Still, I decided that many are also interested in this and those who are not, will probably be interested in why this happened
- Why does Safe have 2 tokens? Initially, the first token
0x5aFE3855358E112B5647B952709E6165e1c1eEEe - the contract was created as a non-transferable token
BUT I found a token that was also created much later - 0x9aE357521153FB07bE6F5792CE7a49752638fbb7 it is transferable, you experimented, and added liquidity but the community doesn’t even know about it, moreover.
on the Internet, I found this - GitHub - z0r0z/vSafe: Virtual Safe Token This is one of the opinions on what can be done with safe tokens, this post is more than 10 months old BUT NO ONE HAS NEVER remembered this!
Hidden development of a transferable token, complete disregard for the vsafe idea, how does it work?
2.1) If the token remains non-transferable, what was the point for investors to invest $100 million? What will be their benefit, since this is not a charity and their only opportunity to return the investment is to make the token transferable?!
2.2) What will be the point of a DAO if the token remains without the possibility of transfer and the voices of several thousand users will not be heard because of a couple of whales
how it was here -
7.8% Manages 92%, this is not fair in any case, and understanding this problem will give us a chance to move on. This is not a DAO. This screenshot clearly shows how the main investors of the project simply decide everything
3.1 The safe stated that it “rewards users” what is the reward if the tokens cannot be sold, exchanged, transferred for real money, or any privileges?
p.s No I’m not a hunter for easy money, I just don’t understand why tokens are needed with which nothing can be done
3.2 If the token remains non-transferable, what is the point of most people on this forum except the delegates?
In voting sep#2, we saw that the forum only needs a couple of people, since they can easily replace even thousands of solutions; if the token remains useless, then it makes sense to offer ideas, waste your time knowing that the first:
Your ideas will be used for free
Even if your idea is very good and cool, then 1-2 whales with 10-20 million safe tokens can easily cancel it
The DAO hides from us the development of a token that has value, hides what motives investors have if the token remains non-transferable, but at the same time, in any convenient case, it says that WE are a DAO!
No guys it doesn’t work like that…
If optimism and arbitration issued tokens for our DAO, how many safe tokens did we allocate to them in return for their DAO and do they take part in management?
Also at address 0x5aFE3855358E112B5647B952709E6165e1c1eEEe
there are tokens from Thrupenny worth more than 230,000 thousand dollars, what were these tokens for and why are they on the safe token contract?
“We cannot officially commit to co-incentives right now, as our Safe token and DAO has not officially launched yet. That said, post-launch, the core team will publish a proposal to our newly established DAO to match our potential OP allocation with SAFE incentives”
I don’t know how to feel about this, more than a year has passed, but there is no such topic on this forum. Can we assume that the safe team did not fulfill its promises and did not thank Optimism for the grant issued?
It’s unpleasant for me that I find such facts about the safe, hidden development of tokens, failure to fulfill promises before optimism, incomprehensible situations with investors…
I really don’t understand, you allocate huge amounts of money for grants but cannot enable portability, you are ready to throw away millions received as a grant, but at the same time you do not consider it necessary to send them the required number of safe tokens…